5/27 Shipment Update: The container shipped by rail from LA Cali to our location, but has stalled along the route and has not been delivered yet and we are not getting a firm commitment on a delivery truck yet. Short staffing at the rail yard is delaying things. We are hoping it will arrive next week.
*PREORDER DISCOUNT - Only a few days left - This is for preorders only. The entire shipment we got at the end of March has been sold. We are now taking preorders for the shipment coming at an estimated mid to late May. We are discounting the grinder on a preorder discount, as we get closer to the date the price will gradually go up.
USA WARRANTY AND SUPPORT. Unlike other companies that sell to the USA, we are located in the USA. These companies list at a lower cost, but the price does not include shipping/tariffs into the USA and they do not allow returns (we certainly do) and have no warranty support in the USA. We don't price match non-USA based retailers.
UPDATED VERSION - This is the newest version with new font on adjustment dial, improved de-clumper, improved upper burr carrier, updated burr screws and updated seals.
PREORDER GIVEAWAY DRAWING - Everyone that preorders for the next shipment will be entered in a drawing for a FREE second Turin DF64 grinder.
Stop wasting coffee due to retention purging!
The Turin DF64 is a new single dose grinder that we are very excited about launching in the US. It comes with Italian made ItalMill 64mm flat burrs that deliver a fluffy grind with minimal clumping and consistent particle size distribution. Single dosing is the rage in the espresso aficionado world these days and there aren’t very many good options that don’t cost a ton.
SSP Burr Upgrades (Optional)
We are offering this grinder with the option to upgrade the burrs to either high uniformity or unimodal SSP burrs. These are some of the best burrs on the market. If you order with these burrs, we will install them. If you prefer to install them yourself, please leave a comment in the order notes. SSP burrs are more sensitive to grind size adjustment, especially the high uniformity burrs, which we have found sometimes require a finer grind size setting than standard stainless steel burrs. For this reason we recommend pumping the bellows while the grinder is in operation to help force the coffee to exit the grind chamber. When we install the SSP burrs, we also replace the grind adjustment sticker so that the zero point is correct for the new burrs. We do include the standard stainless steel burrs with the grinder as well.
Difference Between Burr Choices
We offer several burr options for the Turin DF64, including ItalMil stainless steel burrs, Italmil titanium burrs, SSP multipurpose burrs and SSP high uniformity burrs. The stainless steel burrs are a good standard burr that give good extraction results. The titanium burrs are identical to the stainless steel burrs, except the titanium coating helps the last sharper for about twice as long as the stainless steel burrs. The SSP burrs are outstanding burrs with outstanding results. They are considered by many to be the best burrs on the market. They are precision cut for the optimal ground coffee particles that yield optimal flavor. The coating on these burrs is very long lasting and can last sharp much longer than even the titanium coated burrs. We offer two types of SSP burrs – high uniformity and unimodal multipurpose. If you are someone that wants to make espresso based drinks as well as other types of coffee, then the multipurpose are probably the best choice. Both SSP options work well for espresso and which option is best for you will depend on the flavor you are looking for as well as the types of beans you use. SSP High Uniformity burrs are good for providing high mouthfeel, intense shots, balanced flavors with some floral / fruity flavors. They work well for all roast levels – light, medium and dark. SSP Unimodals have high clarity, sweet shots, well balanced with high extraction yields. They are best for higher brew ratios, such as 1:2, 1:3 or even more. They work best for medium and light roasts, but don’t work as well for dark roasts.
After Market Turin Optional Add Ons
Dial Indicator / Tilted Cup Holder (Optional)
These add ons are made by Portakeeper. We are offering as an optional upgrade due to the frequent requests we get for them. When ordering the grinder you can select the option to get the dosing cup holder and dial indicator and we will include with the grinder. The dial indicator helps make it easier to see where the grind setting is at. The dosing cup holder gets the dosing cup closer to the grounds chute and reduces the amount of coffee that falls outside of the cup.
Optional Metal Dosing Cup, iSwitch, and Metal Collars
The iswitch makes it easier to turn the grinder on and off.
Metal dosing cup for the Turin DF64 Grinder
Metal Dosing Cup Collar (Optional)
Metal collar for the dosing cup on the Turin DF64 grinder. This is an after market product designed to help make the DF64 cleaner to operate.
This is a metal collar to use with a portafilter on the Turin DF64 grinder. It is designed to make the operation of the DF64 less messy.
Burr Alignment (Optional)
While the burr alignment is pretty good out of the box, some customers want to ensure that their burrs are aligned as well as possible to ensure the best extraction possible. The DF64 uses flat burrs, so as with most flat burr grinders, alignment is a manual process that takes some time. We frequently have customers that want us to align non SSP burrs, while we aren't able to do this with every grinder, we do have an optional upgrade where we will align the burrs using the shim and marker alignment method.
3 Year Protection Plan (Optional)
When you purchase from us, the grinders come standard with one year defective parts and labor warranty with warranty support here in the US. But if you want extended warranty you can upgrade to three year parts and labor warranty. Does not include natural wear and tear items, such as burrs and portafilter rest sleeves.
USA Orders Only
We ship the grinders from the USA. If you are in Canada we suggest visiting coffeeaddicts.ca as they are an importer in Canada.
Superior Consistency, Retention and Exchange
This grinder is designed to eliminate purging and has some outstanding retention and dose consistency metrics. In tests it has had the following results:
- < 0.2 grams of variance in dose consistency. This is the variance between the weight of the coffee that is put into the grinder vs the weight of the coffee that is put out by the grinder when the grinder has completed the grinding cycle.
- Total retention is less than 1 gram. After several doses have been ground, the retention is the amount that the grinder holds on the edges of the burrs, the grinding chute, between the burrs, etc. Anything that is retained in the grinding path. This is an important metric in single dosing grinders because to obtain the best flavor possible it is ideal to have as little retention as possible. Any retained coffee that remains in the grinding path will end up in the grounds for the next shot you pull. So if you grind your coffee for a shot today, the retained grinds will end up in your shot tomorrow. Retained coffee grounds get stale and will alter the flavor of tomorrows shot in a negative way and can be quite noticeable, especially with certain coffee beans.
- < 0.3 grams of coffee exchange, which is a metric that calculates the amount of stale coffee from previous grinding sessions that ends up in the current grinding session. If you put 15 grams of beans in, you want to get 15 grams of freshly ground coffee out, but the reality is all grinders will put a little bit of stale coffee from a prior session into the current session. Many grinders have quite a few grams of exchange, even if you purge the grinding chamber prior to pulling a shot. 0.3 grams or less is a very good metric, especially for a grinder in this price range.
- If you turn the grind on and it hums and doesn't sound like it is spinning, turn it off immediately and clean the grind chamber and grounds chute. To prevent clogging and burr jams, always adjust the grind size with the burrs spinning and the motor on and pump the bellows at the end of each grind session while the burrs are still spinning to remove any remaining grinds from the chamber.
- If you take the collar off for cleaning, wipe the threads off both the collar and the grinder with a paper towel or micro fiber cloth to make sure there are no grounds in the threads. Reapply a thin layer of food grade lubricant to the threads, and the part of the collar that touches the top burr carrier. See video here on how to do that.
- Damaged caused by not following the above is not considered a manufacturer defect and will not be covered by warranty.
Features and Specifications
- Italian made ItalMill 64mm stainless steel flat burrs. These can be replaced with Mazzer Super Jolly standard or redspeed burrs if you choose to do so.
- Grinder comes with a 58mm food grade dosing cup. While a portafilter can be used in the portafilter rest, it is best to use the dosing cup, especially if your portafilter isn’t 58mm.
- Dose into a dosing cup or directly into a portafilter. If you dose into a portafilter it can be messy and it is recommended that you use a dosing funnel.
- Stepless adjustment with an infinite number of settings between the highest and lowest amount
- Collar adjustment
- 250 watt motor
- 110 volt grinder with correct hertz for USA wiring
- Weight 15lbs
- Very compact size that allows this grinder to fit under any kitchen cabinet. Overall footprint is very small compared to other 64mm grinders.
- 10” L, 5.2” W, 12” H
- Auto stop after 45 seconds
- Blow hopper capacity: 50 grams
- Comes with a blowing hopper and dosing cup
- One year warranty
- Was James Hoffmann Wrong About The DF64?
- The TRUTH About DF64 | A Budget Do It All Grinder? (VS Eureka Mignon Single Dose)
- Turin Df64 Review
- (OLD Version, Updated Since Video Was Made) The DF64: Niche Killer? - James Hoffman
- DF64 Grinder Review | Zero Retention on a Budget?
- DF64 Turin Review - Cabeen's Coffee Corner
- Is the DF64 Worth The Money?
- Turin DF64 - Close Look at Features
- Turin DF64 Bellows and Retention
- Turin DF64 unboxing
- Turnin DF64 Single Dose Coffee Grinder is finally here!! | UNBOXING!!
- DF64 Solo grinder - unboxing and first impressions!
- Re-seller opinion about DF64: "Bad" Grinder (featuring PL81T)
Videos: TURIN DF64 VS OTHER GRINDERS
- DF64 vs Niche - Niche Killer?
- Niche Zero vs DF64
- Niche Zero Vs DF64 Turin | Was James Hoffmann wrong?
- Should you purchase the DF64 Over the Niche Zero?
- Turin DF64 VS Atom 75
- Turin DF64 vs Niche Zero vs Atom 75 - Blind Taste Test
- Turin DF64 vs. Breville Barista Pro build in grinder
- Turin DF64 vs. Niche Zero | The Battle of Single Dose Coffee Grinders
- Turin vs Niche Zero Retention
- Df64 vs Atom 75
- "$500" DF64 SSP vs. "$3000" Mahlkonig EK43S Coffee Grinder
- Eureka Oro vs DF64 grinding for espresso. Surprising results!
- Mahlkonig EK43S vs DF64 SSP MP Burrs Espresso Grinder | V60 Comparison
- Eureka Atom 75 first impressions vs Lagom P64 and DF64 etc
- Eureka Oro Mignon Single Dose Grinder with Clogging Issue vs DF64 Turin Grinder n stuff!!
HOW TO BREW VIDEOS
- DF64 For Pour Over… One Of The Best Ways To Organize Your Setups
- How to Dial in Espresso | DF64 Single Dose Coffee Grinder
- Making an Affogato with the Breville Express and Turin Df64
- The DF64 | Dialing in Dark Roasted Coffee
- Turin DF64 - Can it do Aeropress and V60?
- Turin DF64 - First shots
- V60 Pour Over using Turin DF64 and Niche Zero
- La Pavoni Workflow with DF64 coffee grinder
- Geisha Pour Over | Panama vs. Colombia | DF64 MP SSP Burrs
TURIN DF64 MODS
Videos: MAINTENANCE, CLEANING, ALIGNMENT
- Turin DF64 Disassembly (Solo Grinder)
- Preventing Clogging/Burr Jams, Clean The Grind Chamber, Lubricating Threads
- Turin DF64 Grinder Clogging Issues
- Turin Espresso Grinder - Popcorning
- Turin Grinder using RDT (Ross Droplet Technique) to prevent mess
- DF64 Single Dose Grinder Switching from Coarse Back To Espresso Issue Fix. Burr Touching Issue Fix.
- DF64 Single Dose Grinder | SSP Replacement and Marker Test
How to Use the Turin DF64 ELR
If this grinder is used correctly there is no need to purge the grinder to eliminate retention from prior shots.
- Weigh your whole beans with an Acaia Lunar Scale or similar weight measurement device
- Pour the beans into the blow hopper, put the bellows in place over the beans
- Put dosing cup in place
- Turn the grinder on using the switch at the base of the grinder
- Let it grind until nothing comes out, the apply rapid downward pressure to the bellows several times until no more grounds exit the chute.
- Remove the dosing cup and pour into your portafilter.
- The grinder will turn itself off automatically after a preset amount of time. You can allow it to shut itself off or you can push the button again to turn the grinder off.
Turin DF64 vs the Eureka Oro Grinder
How to Clean the Turin DF64 ELR Grinder
For best results and to prevent any potential build up in the grinds chute, it is recommended that you do this after every two weeks of use.
- Install the bellows to the blow hopper and power on the grinder. While the burrs are spinning push the bellows rapidly several times to clear the grind chamber.
- With the grinder unplugged, turn the adjustment disc counter clockwise to remove it. It will take several spins. Once it is removed, lift out the upper burr holder, while being careful not to lose the springs. Make a note of how the springs are positioned so you know how to put back in place.
- Clean both burrs with a stiff grinder cleaning brush. Also clean around the burrs as well as the grinds exit chute. You can tip upside down to remove the grounds or use a vacuum. Be careful not to drop or lose the springs!
- Reinstall the upper burr holder (make sure the springs are in place). Put the adjustment collar in place, and while pushing down turn it clockwise until it won’t move (don’t overtighten), then move it counterclockwise to about position 10 on the adjustment scale. The grinder is now in roughly the espresso range, but you will need to adjust up or down to dial in the right size for your specific bean. Sometimes small adjustments can make a big difference.
Reviewer Video: Burrs and Grind Chamber
Reviewer Video: AC Motor
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Unboxing
Reviewer Video: First Shots on a Turin DF64 Grinder
Reviewer Video: Close Look at Turin DF64 Features
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Mazzer Super Jolly
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Bellows & Retention
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Eureka Atom 75
Reviewer Video: Using a Turin DF64 with a V60 Brewer
Reviewer Video: Can the Turin DF64 Do Aeropress and V60?
Reviewer Video: Turin Grinder Using RDT (Ross Droplet Technique) to Prevent Mess
Turin Espresso Grinder - How Much Does The Bellows Help (Experiment)
Reviewer Video: Disassembly of Turin DF64 and Niche Zero Grinder Comparison
Niche Zero Disassembly Comparison
How to Install and Align Burrs
G-iota or Solo or Turin, What is the difference?
They are the same grinder, but the manufacturer allows companies to private label them. We are private labeling them the Turin DF64 here in the USA. The G-iota and Solo are names used in Europe.
Reviews and Additional Information
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Is it a perfect grinder? Nope. However, for the price, the extra ssp burrs, it's an awesome ! The folks at espresso outlet messed up a bit on my order (hey, they were swamped with filling all the back orders) BUT they took instant responsibility for the mistakes and fixed them right away. This quick responsiveness is the very definition of "customer care".
I have only had this grinder for about 2 weeks and got it to replace a Breville Smart Grinder Pro. It did not make a small difference, it made a huge difference. Everything tastes amazing that it grinds and brings out flavors I could not get to with the SGP. I really enjoy the single dosing as it allows me to use different beans on the fly, which can be a pain when using a grinder with a hopper. Changing grind size is easy and accurate and you can purchase a grind size indicator if you want a pin point indicator of you setting, since this is a stepless grinder the indicator is a great idea since the smallest adjustments can make a big difference. At this point the only con I have found with the DF64 is it has increased my espresso consumption.
This is my first real grinder and after a great deal of research, I am pleased to say this met and continues to beat my expectations. It's paired with a Rancilio Silvia and it's more than enough to pull great shots.
This is by far the best coffee grinder I've ever owned. It's capabilities are more than I expect I'll ever need to exceed. This is one of those things on the asymptotic end of diminishing returns. Its mass is mostly from the motor and though people debate many aspects of a grinder it seems to me that a substantial motor is on the top of the list of desirable attributes for a grinder one would want to use for many years. I fully expect that this motor could last for decades. The SSP burrs are considered to be among the best, if not the best, and though I don't yet have the ability to detect subtle differences between burrs I'm not concerned that I may have bought something that will later prove to be inferior. How much better can a burr set get? I imagine future subtleties will be somewhere other than the burrs. All in all, I'm happy with the DF64. Thank you for providing it.
I'm absolutely delighted with the Turin DF64. After using a doser/hopper machine for many years, it's a relief to work with a single dosing system with this grinder at its core. The Titanium burrs are making fluffy and consistent grind even before much seasoning has occurred. I'm very pleased with the work Joe and his staff have done in setting up the new burrs and establishing good alignment before sending to me. I also really appreciate all the info on the website that helped me make a decision. The DF64 is smooth, efficient, not loud, consistent and looks great on the counter. Dialing in shots is very straightforward. Highly recommended if you're looking for a single dose grinder for espresso style.
Just received my DF64, I bought it for my espresso machine but have been using it for Chemex so far. I probably should wait to leave a review till I use it for the espresso but I just wanted to say I was glad I got the dial marker ring and tilted cup holder. Glad to have a US distributor for this, Thank you. So far grinding for chemex, RDT helps a lot but doesn’t always eliminate all the static, but I knew this going in. Looking forward to using it for espresso. I like how much quicker and quieter it is than the Encore I’ve been using.
I use this grinder for both filter and espresso drinks. I have used nice conical burr grinders but much prefer the sweetness, clarity, and flavors of these 64mm flat burrs. The motor seems robust with the overall workflow and user experience a joy. Joe's customer service, communication, and knowledge are top shelf. I wouldn't recommend buying from anywhere else.
The DF64 grinder is incredible. So incredible, I purchased 2 of them. My thoughts echo Portakeeper's, go watch his youtube reviews. This is the Niche killer. Joe's communication and service make me want to buy more things from him or hire him over at my company.
this is a great grinder, so glad i waited. my only complaint it the grinder didn't come with a marker (needle) that shows where i'm grinding.