Warranty and support will be in the USA
11 / 24 Update: Still open for preorder. After numerous shipping delays, the shipment is expected to arrive at our location the week of Nov 28. The majority of the shipment has been presold, but there are still units of every color available for preorder on the shipment. There are no units in stock at this time and this product is only available on preorder for the above mentioned shipment. If you preorder and change your mind at any point, you can cancel without any cancelation fees. At this time this is for USA customers only.
Stop wasting coffee due to retention purging!
The Turin DF64 is a new single dose grinder that we are very excited about launching in the US. It comes with Italian made ItalMill 64mm flat burrs that deliver a fluffy grind with minimal clumping and consistent particle size distribution. Single dosing is the rage in the espresso aficionado world these days and there aren’t very many good options that don’t cost a ton.
SSP Burr Upgrades
We are offering this grinder with the option to upgrade the burrs to either high uniformity or unimodal SSP burrs. These are some of the best burrs on the market. If you order with these burrs, we will install and do a marker alignment of the burrs. With SSP burrs it is especially important that the alignments are very accurate and you may have to fine tune the alignment when you get them. SSP burrs are more sensitive to grind size adjustment, especially the high uniformity burrs, which we have found sometimes require a finer grind size setting than standard stainless steel burrs. For this reason we recommend pumping the bellows while the grinder is in operation to help force the coffee to exit the grind chamber. When we install and align the SSP burrs, we also replace the grind adjustment sticker so that the zero point is correct for the new burrs. We do include the standard stainless steel burrs with the grinder as well.
While the burr alignment is pretty good out of the box, some customers want to ensure that their burrs are aligned as well as possible to ensure the best extraction possible. The DF64 uses flat burrs, so as with most flat burr grinders, alignment is a manual process that takes some time. We frequently have customers that want us to align non SSP burrs, while we aren't able to do this with every grinder, we do have an optional upgrade where we will align the burrs using the shim and marker alignment method.
3 Year Protection Plan
When you purchase from us, the grinders come standard with one year defective parts and labor warranty with warranty support here in the US. But if you want extended warranty you can upgrade to three year parts and labor warranty. Does not include natural wear and tear items, such as burrs and portafilter rest sleeves.
Canada and USA Orders Only
We ship the grinders from the USA. We will ship to Canada, but you are responsible for all import duties and brokerage fees. If you are in Canada we suggest visiting coffeeaddicts.ca as they are an importer in Canada.
Superior Consistency, Retention and Exchange
This grinder is designed to eliminate purging and has some outstanding retention and dose consistency metrics. In tests it has had the following results:
- < 0.2 grams of variance in dose consistency. This is the variance between the weight of the coffee that is put into the grinder vs the weight of the coffee that is put out by the grinder when the grinder has completed the grinding cycle.
- Total retention is less than 1 gram. After several doses have been ground, the retention is the amount that the grinder holds on the edges of the burrs, the grinding chute, between the burrs, etc. Anything that is retained in the grinding path. This is an important metric in single dosing grinders because to obtain the best flavor possible it is ideal to have as little retention as possible. Any retained coffee that remains in the grinding path will end up in the grounds for the next shot you pull. So if you grind your coffee for a shot today, the retained grinds will end up in your shot tomorrow. Retained coffee grounds get stale and will alter the flavor of tomorrows shot in a negative way and can be quite noticeable, especially with certain coffee beans.
- < 0.3 grams of coffee exchange, which is a metric that calculates the amount of stale coffee from previous grinding sessions that ends up in the current grinding session. If you put 15 grams of beans in, you want to get 15 grams of freshly ground coffee out, but the reality is all grinders will put a little bit of stale coffee from a prior session into the current session. Many grinders have quite a few grams of exchange, even if you purge the grinding chamber prior to pulling a shot. 0.3 grams or less is a very good metric, especially for a grinder in this price range.
Features and Specifications
- Italian made ItalMill 64mm stainless steel flat burrs. These can be replaced with Mazzer Super Jolly standard or redspeed burrs if you choose to do so.
- Grinder comes with a 58mm food grade dosing cup. While a portafilter can be used in the portafilter rest, it is best to use the dosing cup, especially if your portafilter isn’t 58mm.
- Dose into a dosing cup or directly into a portafilter. If you dose into a portafilter it can be messy and it is recommended that you use a dosing funnel.
- Stepless adjustment with an infinite number of settings between the highest and lowest amount
- Collar adjustment
- 250 watt motor
- 110 volt grinder with correct hertz for USA wiring
- Weight 15lbs
- Very compact size that allows this grinder to fit under any kitchen cabinet. Overall footprint is very small compared to other 64mm grinders.
- 10” L, 5.2” W, 12” H
- Auto stop after 45 seconds
- Blow hopper capacity: 50 grams
- Comes with a blowing hopper and dosing cup
- One year warranty
How to Use the Turin DF64 ELR
If this grinder is used correctly there is no need to purge the grinder to eliminate retention from prior shots.
- Weigh your whole beans with an Acaia Lunar Scale or similar weight measurement device
- Pour the beans into the blow hopper, put the bellows in place over the beans
- Put dosing cup in place
- Turn the grinder on using the switch at the base of the grinder
- Let it grind until nothing comes out, the apply rapid downward pressure to the bellows several times until no more grounds exit the chute.
- Remove the dosing cup and pour into your portafilter.
- The grinder will turn itself off automatically after a preset amount of time. You can allow it to shut itself off or you can push the button again to turn the grinder off.
How to Clean the Turin DF64 ELR Grinder
For best results and to prevent any potential build up in the grinds chute, it is recommended that you do this after every two weeks of use.
- Install the bellows to the blow hopper and power on the grinder. While the burrs are spinning push the bellows rapidly several times to clear the grind chamber.
- With the grinder unplugged, turn the adjustment disc counter clockwise to remove it. It will take several spins. Once it is removed, lift out the upper burr holder, while being careful not to lose the springs. Make a note of how the springs are positioned so you know how to put back in place.
- Clean both burrs with a stiff grinder cleaning brush. Also clean around the burrs as well as the grinds exit chute. You can tip upside down to remove the grounds or use a vacuum. Be careful not to drop or lose the springs!
- Reinstall the upper burr holder (make sure the springs are in place). Put the adjustment collar in place, and while pushing down turn it clockwise until it won’t move (don’t overtighten), then move it counterclockwise to about position 10 on the adjustment scale. The grinder is now in roughly the espresso range, but you will need to adjust up or down to dial in the right size for your specific bean. Sometimes small adjustments can make a big difference.
Reviewer Video: Burrs and Grind Chamber
Reviewer Video: AC Motor
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Unboxing
Reviewer Video: First Shots on a Turin DF64 Grinder
Reviewer Video: Close Look at Turin DF64 Features
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Mazzer Super Jolly
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Bellows & Retention
Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Eureka Atom 75
Reviewer Video: Using a Turin DF64 with a V60 Brewer
Reviewer Video: Can the Turin DF64 Do Aeropress and V60?
Reviewer Video: Turin Grinder Using RDT (Ross Droplet Technique) to Prevent Mess
Turin Espresso Grinder - How Much Does The Bellows Help (Experiment)
Reviewer Video: Disassembly of Turin DF64 and Niche Zero Grinder Comparison
Niche Zero Disassembly Comparison
How to Install and Align Burrs
G-iota or Solo or Turin, What is the difference?
They are the same grinder, but the manufacturer allows companies to private label them. We are private labeling them the Turin DF64 here in the USA. The G-iota and Solo are names used in Europe.
Reviews and Additional Information
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Shipping was fast! The machine works like it’s suppose to, make sure to calibrate burrs for actual 0 setting. Comes with a plastic cup for the grinds, some say it’s cheap but I’m okay with it. The pump action makes it extremely close to 0 retention. Saw some reviews about static, it happens if grind holder is too far from the shoot so get closer don’t be shy.
I had a great purchasing experience with Espresso Outlet who was very attentive to my requests and questions while waiting on the preorder list. This is my first espresso grinder but it’s obvious to me this is a great value.
This grinder works really well for me. I'd give it 5 stars but I needed to order an extra part (https://www.etsy.com/listing/1035994475/turinkeeper-df64-espresso-grinder-dial?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=df64&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&bes=1&variation0=2065418414) for it to be easy to use.
I've been using the DF64 for 3 months and am very pleased with it. On the positive side, it is relatively quiet, has excellent, stepless grind adjustability, and the bellows work well to minimize coffee retention inside the grinder. On the negative side, the placement of the on/off button is a bit awkward, and the cup holder should be a little higher (or the output chute a bit longer) to eliminate the tiny amount of ground coffee that overshoots the cup and ends up on the kitchen counter. Overall I'm happy with the purchase and feel like the price is very fair.
We got this in the September pre-order with upgraded burrs (the espresso ones). I was nervous spending over $700 on a single-dose grinder (the price with burrs) but this was recommended to us over and over. We opted for it due to size and our personal use needs. It's been FANTASTIC!!!! It can actually grind finer than we need! Our first grind at 0 was super coarse and not at all what I expected. However, once we dialed it in (by using a cheapy store-bought bag of beans), its been amazing. Grinds to a perfect powder and we only keep it at maybe a 20ish grind setting. It's easy to use and looks great next to our Gaggia. Oh and go ahead and upgrade those burrs. The added expense is worth it as they do it for you before shipping and it's still less than other recommended grinders I've found.
It grinds excellent coffee once it is set properly. But the settings are hard to read and it is difficult to fine tune the settings.
I am very impressed with the solid build of this grinder as well as with the quality of the grinds and produces (so far I am only using it for espresso). It’s also pretty quiet. And Espresso Outlet is a great company to deal with!
This grinder plus the SSP Multipurpose burrs represent a great value in grinding. They can do low-flow shots, high flow turbo shots, and brew with ease. The installation and alignment from Joe was good, not perfect, but got me up and running really quickly. At some point I’ll revisit with a dial indicator and shims. That’s really the last 5% I’ll squeeze out of what this grinder can do, though. It’s 95% of the way there.
Joe has been incredibly helpful and responsive, and the grinder it an absolute beast. Perfect if you love being able to upgrade and modify things yourself, but also fantastic right out the box.