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Turin DF64 ELR Single Dose Low Retention Espresso Grinder

Was: $699.00
Now: $469.00
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4th Shipment - Shipping Update: Due to a typhoon in China the shipment was delayed and our freight forwarder has to find room on another vessel. International shipping is insane right now. We are getting some units about October 5th and the rest have to go on another vessel. We don't have exact timing for this shipment yet, we were originally hoping for the end of September, but it looks like the rest of the units will likely arrive close to the end of October. Please check this page for additional updates. Starting 7/28/2021, all preorders will be part of this shipment, not the 3rd shipment. We will try to avoid delays, but with international shipping issues, it is possible for this time estimate to change. Preorder price will be $469 with standard burrs. Discounted since you will have to wait several weeks to receive. Normal price is $599. The sale price cannot be combined with any other coupon code or discount and any orders that use them will be cancelled. If you order with SSP burrs that could add at least a week to the timeline as we have to install and align a lot of orders. 

3rd Shipment - SOLD OUT 

2nd Shipment - SOLD OUT

1st Shipment - SOLD OUT 

There are no units in stock at this time and this product is only available on preorder. 

If you preorder and change your mind at any point, you can cancel without any cancelation fees. At this time this is for US / Canada customers only.  

Stop wasting coffee due to retention purging!

The Turin DF64 is a new single dose grinder that we are very excited about launching in the US. It comes with Italian made ItalMill 64mm flat burrs that deliver a fluffy grind with minimal clumping and consistent particle size distribution. Single dosing is the rage in the espresso aficionado world these days and there aren’t very many good options that don’t cost a ton.

SSP Burr Upgrades

We are offering this grinder with the option to upgrade the burrs to either high uniformity or unimodal SSP burrs. These are some of the best burrs on the market. If you order with these burrs, we will install and do a marker alignment of the burrs. With SSP burrs it is especially important that the alignments are very accurate and you may have to fine tune the alignment when you get them. SSP burrs are more sensitive to grind size adjustment, especially the high uniformity burrs, which we have found sometimes require a finer grind size setting than standard stainless steel burrs. For this reason we recommend pumping the bellows while the grinder is in operation to help force the coffee to exit the grind chamber. When we install and align the SSP burrs, we also replace the grind adjustment sticker so that the zero point is correct for the new burrs. We do include the standard stainless steel burrs with the grinder as well. 

Burr Alignment

While the burr alignment is pretty good out of the box, some customers want to ensure that their burrs are aligned as well as possible to ensure the best extraction possible. The DF64 uses flat burrs, so as with most flat burr grinders, alignment is a manual process that takes some time. We frequently have customers that want us to align non SSP burrs, while we aren't able to do this with every grinder, we do have an optional upgrade where we will align the burrs using the shim and marker alignment method. 

3 Year Protection Plan

When you purchase from us, the grinders come standard with one year defective parts and labor warranty with warranty support here in the US. But if you want extended warranty you can upgrade to three year parts and labor warranty. Does not include natural wear and tear items, such as burrs and portafilter rest sleeves. 

Canada and USA Orders Only

We ship the grinders from the USA. We will ship to Canada, but you are responsible for all import duties and brokerage fees. If you are in Canada we suggest visiting coffeeaddicts.ca as they are an importer in Canada. 

Superior Consistency, Retention and Exchange

This grinder is designed to eliminate purging and has some outstanding retention and dose consistency metrics. In tests it has had the following results:

  • < 0.2 grams of variance in dose consistency. This is the variance between the weight of the coffee that is put into the grinder vs the weight of the coffee that is put out by the grinder when the grinder has completed the grinding cycle.
  • Total retention is less than 1 gram. After several doses have been ground, the retention is the amount that the grinder holds on the edges of the burrs, the grinding chute, between the burrs, etc. Anything that is retained in the grinding path. This is an important metric in single dosing grinders because to obtain the best flavor possible it is ideal to have as little retention as possible. Any retained coffee that remains in the grinding path will end up in the grounds for the next shot you pull. So if you grind your coffee for a shot today, the retained grinds will end up in your shot tomorrow. Retained coffee grounds get stale and will alter the flavor of tomorrows shot in a negative way and can be quite noticeable, especially with certain coffee beans.
  • < 0.3 grams of coffee exchange, which is a metric that calculates the amount of stale coffee from previous grinding sessions that ends up in the current grinding session. If you put 15 grams of beans in, you want to get 15 grams of freshly ground coffee out, but the reality is all grinders will put a little bit of stale coffee from a prior session into the current session. Many grinders have quite a few grams of exchange, even if you purge the grinding chamber prior to pulling a shot. 0.3 grams or less is a very good metric, especially for a grinder in this price range.

Features and Specifications

  • Italian made ItalMill 64mm stainless steel flat burrs. These can be replaced with Mazzer Super Jolly standard or redspeed burrs if you choose to do so.
  • Grinder comes with a 58mm food grade dosing cup. While a portafilter can be used in the portafilter rest, it is best to use the dosing cup, especially if your portafilter isn’t 58mm.
  • Dose into a dosing cup or directly into a portafilter. If you dose into a portafilter it can be messy and it is recommended that you use a dosing funnel.
  • Stepless adjustment with an infinite number of settings between the highest and lowest amount
  • Collar adjustment
  • 250 watt motor
  • 110 volt grinder with correct hertz for USA wiring
  • Weight 15lbs
  • Very compact size that allows this grinder to fit under any kitchen cabinet. Overall footprint is very small compared to other 64mm grinders.
  • 10” L, 5.2” W, 12” H
  • Auto stop after 45 seconds
  • Blow hopper capacity: 50 grams
  • Comes with a blowing hopper and dosing cup
  • One year warranty

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How to Use the Turin DF64 ELR

If this grinder is used correctly there is no need to purge the grinder to eliminate retention from prior shots.

  1. Weigh your whole beans with an Acaia Lunar Scale or similar weight measurement device
  2. Pour the beans into the blow hopper, put the bellows in place over the beans
  3. Put dosing cup in place
  4. Turn the grinder on using the switch at the base of the grinder
  5. Let it grind until nothing comes out, the apply rapid downward pressure to the bellows several times until no more grounds exit the chute.
  6. Remove the dosing cup and pour into your portafilter.
  7. The grinder will turn itself off automatically after a preset amount of time. You can allow it to shut itself off or you can push the button again to turn the grinder off.

How to Clean the Turin DF64 ELR Grinder

For best results and to prevent any potential build up in the grinds chute, it is recommended that you do this after every two weeks of use.

  1. Install the bellows to the blow hopper and power on the grinder. While the burrs are spinning push the bellows rapidly several times to clear the grind chamber.
  2. With the grinder unplugged, turn the adjustment disc counter clockwise to remove it. It will take several spins. Once it is removed, lift out the upper burr holder, while being careful not to lose the springs. Make a note of how the springs are positioned so you know how to put back in place.
  3. Clean both burrs with a stiff grinder cleaning brush. Also clean around the burrs as well as the grinds exit chute. You can tip upside down to remove the grounds or use a vacuum. Be careful not to drop or lose the springs!
  4. Reinstall the upper burr holder (make sure the springs are in place). Put the adjustment collar in place, and while pushing down turn it clockwise until it won’t move (don’t overtighten), then move it counterclockwise to about position 10 on the adjustment scale. The grinder is now in roughly the espresso range, but you will need to adjust up or down to dial in the right size for your specific bean. Sometimes small adjustments can make a big difference.

 

Reviewer Video: Burrs and Grind Chamber

 

 Reviewer Video: AC Motor

 

Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Unboxing

 

Reviewer Video: First Shots on a Turin DF64 Grinder

 

Reviewer Video: Close Look at Turin DF64 Features

 

Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Mazzer Super Jolly

 

Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 Bellows & Retention

 

Reviewer Video: Turin DF64 vs Eureka Atom 75

 

Reviewer Video: Using a Turin DF64 with a V60 Brewer

 

Reviewer Video: Can the Turin DF64 Do Aeropress and V60?

 

Reviewer Video: Turin Grinder Using RDT (Ross Droplet Technique) to Prevent Mess

 

Turin Espresso Grinder - How Much Does The Bellows Help (Experiment)

 

Reviewer Video: Disassembly of Turin DF64 and Niche Zero Grinder Comparison

Turin Disassembly

 

Niche Zero Disassembly Comparison

 

How to Install and Align Burrs

G-iota or Solo or Turin, What is the difference?

They are the same grinder, but the manufacturer allows companies to private label them. We are private labeling them the Turin DF64 here in the USA. The G-iota and Solo are names used in Europe. 

Reviews and Additional Information

BEHIND THE HYPE: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE DF64 GRINDER?

Coffee Forums Turin DF64 Discussion

Home-Barista Turin DF64 Discussion

Reddit Discussion on the DF64

G-Iota DF64 / Solo / Turin Review

 

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  • 4
    Turin DF64

    Posted by Chuck Schwimmer on 11th Sep 2021

    I've had this grinder for a little over 2 months now. My previous grinder was a Eureka Mignon Silenzio. I loved the quality of grind from that Eureka grinder as well as its looks and how quiet it was. After using the DF64 for just a week I found that I like it better than the Silenzio. The main thing that I think is much better is the very large and fine increment grind adjustment dial. You can do better micro adjustments and it is much easier to return to an exact previous grind level. Also, while I had made a bellows for the Silenzio to eliminate grind retention, the bellows that is included with the DF64 is far superior. Build quality of the DF64 seems very robust and the grind quality is excellent. Only 2 minor cons that I can think of: I'd prefer a hinged bellows cover since it is a little finicky to remove (need fingernails to remove it!), and the adjustment ring could use some knurling to aid gripping it when adjusting. Aside from those minor issues, it's a fantastic grinder, especially at this price point.

  • 5
    Turin DF64

    Posted by Garrett on 6th Sep 2021

    I purchased this grinder with SSP espresso burrs installed and am really happy with it's performance as well as my decision to purchase it through Espresso Outlet. It seems to be very well made and with a few modifications it's as good of a grinding experience and as I can imagine. Espresso has been outstanding! Mods include 10 degree tilted base, anti popcorn, pointer for grinder setting, anti clumping improvements, knob fixed to the bellows cap to assist in cap removal. I removed the cup holder to allow grinding directly into the portafilter. Also rewrapped in a black and gray camo vinyl which was very easy. Mods are easy and not necessary but just make my workflow and experience more enjoyable and consistent.

  • 5
    Glubka

    Posted by Ronald on 27th Aug 2021

    When I first received the grinder I intended to run some coffee beans through it for seasoning. I ground 18 grams to start but quickly decided I should dial it in for espresso rather than just waste beans.. Based on previous buyers experience I set the grinder to 15 from touch point and ground it into the cup. It looked like an espresso size grind. I now could not help myself. On goes the Breville Double Boiler, grind a test sample into the portafilter and amazingly the shot was within the right time frame, looked good and smelled good. One more test sample was similar but despite it being later than I usually want caffeine I had to try it. I thought it was good so off I went for an expert tasting from my wife. She said it was better than the other coffees this week. A higher recommendation cannot be achieved. Coffee good, WAF Wife approval factor priceless.

  • 5
    High Quality with Low Retention

    Posted by D. Bell on 27th Aug 2021

    This is a top quality grinder with a solid build and several fine features, such as ease of grind adjustment and burr cleaning. Espressooutlet made it a pleasant transaction.

  • 5
    Awesome machine, punches above its price range

    Posted by Peter on 26th Aug 2021

    Disclosure: I got this at the discounted price of $450. At full price it would have been outside of my budget. I only use it for espresso so my experience is at the setting of 5 to 15. I only had this machine for 3 weeks so this is first impressions: I single dose and my old grinder had a 1.0-1.5g retention which could be mitigated with scraping the insides and shaking the grinder around which got old after a while. When I saw that this machine had a bellows, a larger burr and a large motor I was sold. I love it so far. With utilizing the bellows I'm consistently getting 0.0-0.1g retention. (to be honest without the bellows its retention is not much better than my old machine - but hey in the end it provides a great solution to my problem). My only beef is that there is no grind setting indicator to speak of. There is the top ring with numbers but no indicator to reference those numbers to. There is a $10 3D printed indicator I found on etsy which I may need to invest to get this addressed. Based on my first impressions I highly recommend this machine or under $500... at full price the Niche is a solid alternative but it has its own issues.

  • 5
    Far and away better than my Rocky.

    Posted by Ken Hagins on 26th Aug 2021

    Quiet and fluffy grinds.

  • 5
    Fluffy grind and great value

    Posted by JC on 9th Aug 2021

    This grinds beans very fine and fluffly. I ground fine enough to choke my espresso machine without any issues of clumping or clogging. Easy to clean and many YouTube videos on how to calibrate. I like the fact that you can choose different burr sets. I got the titanium coated burrs. This is a solid grinder and great value for what you get. As James Hoffman has noted, you need to put a small spritz of water on your beans, especially for lighter roasts, or else you will get static cling on the outside of the dosing nozzle. I also suggest using a dosing funnel, because the blower can be messy. Once you figure out the workflow, it works great! It's not the prettiest of machines, but few grinders are. You cannot beat the price value with the grind quality. I just wish the power button wasn't underneath the dosing cup, but not a big deal.

  • 5
    DF64

    Posted by Roger Christensen on 6th Aug 2021

    I like this grinder a lot. I’m using it for pour over and aero press. I also make a wannabe espresso with the aero press. It does this extremely well. I get great flavor and consistent results. Not too loud and a great motor. A joy to use with the exception of the silly switch placement. I would definitely buy again.

  • 5
    Turin DF64

    Posted by Jordan on 4th Aug 2021

    I'm really really happy with this grinder! Also, seeing how difficult shipping from China can be I'm glad I waited to get it from EO. This was a significant step up from the Sette 270 I had. At first I was curious and wanted to experiment. I didn't think I'd be able to taste the difference. I can. So much so that the Sette is now in storage and I only use the DF64. Can't really compare it to other grinders but I'm definitely happy and honestly found that it didn't need any modifications as some would have you believe. It's good out of the box with the stock burrs.